Today has been pretty good for progress. I spent 30 minutes or so putting together some commission prompts for art to get from artists like Bashko – just like the Syri pictured at right! Yes, that Syri picture will be sliding its way into the artpack soon.
My next task was to burrow back into the ship combat systems and continue to flesh them out. Today’s project was the “Gadgets” menu, where various upgrades can be used like a PC’s special abilities. I loosely based the structure on the current combat item use, since they function in similar ways, but I had to chase down some interesting new bugs in target selection that cropped up. For example, shield boosters would continually refuse to activate, citing shields being at maximum no matter what your ship’s shields were actually at, because it was incorrectly assigning the item’s target to the PC him(her?)self.
With those smashed out, I’m pleased to report that shield boosters (1/fight shield healing), repair modules (1/fight armor healing), and shield disruptors (1/fight chance to deal 50% shield damage to enemy, based on the ship’s system stats). Note that all numbers, values, and abilities are subject to change.
The remaining things I need to tackle, in no particular order:
- Putting together some proper AI routines with various personality “types” that can be assigned to enemy ships to control them in a fight.
- Make sure enemy ships actually fire the full volley from their guns. (Right now only PC ships will fire their machine gun all four times.)
- Create a new ship type for our first foe, outfit it, and implement Wsan’s finished scenes.
- Put together the UI for comparing your current ship to a new one.
- UI for choosing to move all upgrades to your new ship
- UI for choosing to store or sell the ship you are replacing. (And figure out how ships will be stored/retrieved.)
- Determine how to deal with onboard storage – all items will always be stored on your “current” ship, which means I may have to prevent liftoff if you swap from a cargo ship back to the z14 and don’t have room for you 60 guns.
- Actually buying the new ship.
Looks like july’s public release is gonna be a chunky one, careful you don’t burn up or piss off nurgle.
I have no intention of BUYING, a ship.
Imean we DO get the free ship from Zeng Shi. But if I have to spend to get a ship big enough to hold my entire harem, so be it.
i do, i’ll make my own fleet!
[My own fleet]
[Fleet]
Yes please~ We may not be able to stow away our whole harem on one ship, so some option to link up multiple ships would be nice~ Also a good buff for combat, since it means you have multiple ships on your side in combat. Perhaps balance it by going only as fast as the slower one?
You will also have to increase the maximum number of credits that can be charged (maybe a bank)? It would really seem strange that a ship count 999,999 and the eyes of Paige 500,000.
Mmm thinking about that… space battles will be the new way to get enough credits? Collect rewards from criminals… collect scrap from fights… sell captured ships… space mining… ask for rescues… sell slaves… hahaha this gets better and better
To be fair, her eyes DID seem like a pretty high end job, and everyone knows anything medical can have the price shoot through the damn roof without insurance of some kind involved to eat the costs. For all we know, space ship tech is relatively common place enough that the cost might not be all that high. I’m pretty sure high end medical care (without insurance) EASILY costs more than most cars these days, and we’re not buying “military grade” ships after all (pretty sure they don’t sell actual warships to civilians, just heavily up-gunned freighters and yachts, and such).
This is a setting where concoctions that for example grow you additional entirely functional eyes or legs (or dramatically alter the entire physical structure of your body, see Galomax) can be readily purchased for comparatively trivial sums over the counter, though…
Replacing some busted eyeballs should frankly be almost trivial as long as the relevant neural hook-ups to the brain are still intact.
While it may be that the technology of ships is quite “common”, keep in mind that the fuel, a piece of raw savicite costs 12,000 credits and characters like Kiro and Kaede must be doing work continuously and the latter still seems to have to eat cheap things for lack of money, if you have it in mind you can not tell me that the ships are cheap, come on that Reasner bought 400 tons of savicite to Steel Tech.
Another example would be the loftcake and shortcake that cost 10 miserable credits and change your body from head to toe.
(But seriously, it’s not knowing that most prices are totally unbalanced.)
For Paige, B most likely just wanted a sum that meant something to the player. It’d make more sense if it cost like 50k or less (considering that Reaha’s contract was worth 5k, for example), but that’s pocket change to Steele and the player. Credits are just another stat that inflates with leveling and author whims.
To be honest there are a lot of us players that have characters with billions of credits so dont feel to afraid to make huge ships that will take millions of credits to buy and smaller ones that are best for early game play
Just my 2 cents tho (yours truly a long time fan and supporter ♡)
I used to have millions, then my laptop took a floor to the casing.
thats what the editor is for 😛
though if youre anything like me once you start you’ll have a hard time stopping
“Shield cell activated”
“Warning,taking heat damage, taking heat damage”
This sounds exciting! I wonder how deep you can make this system? I also agree with a earlier comment of making a combination of cheaper early game ships and super expensive late game ships available for purchase. Tho, perhaps we can also get special ships as rewards? Perhaps Zheng Shi’s Sidewinder Ship? (Plus a certain draconic sexbot that’s obsessed with said ship?)
I’m hoping we’ll be able to appropriate a ship from a Dread Lord.
Sidewinder is supposed to be the reward for beating Zeng Shi’s content IIRC
Is it public or backers update
It’s a progress update, not a new patch. 😛
Hmm, what are our chances of getting something like a battlecruiser or even a capital ship?
Realistically I’d assume pretty low: just crewing an actual military capital ship would take a lot of people, they’re not usually designed to be crewed by a single squad of people, after all. A heavily up-gunned and up-reactor’d light cruise or something would probably be possible, though. Unless they allow us to hire a faceless NPC goon crew to run the ship for us or something, anyway.
Realistically the owners thereof keep a real tight leash on them and the running costs are so prohibitive as to keep anyone who isn’t a decently prosperous governement from hanging onto one, which is ofc kind of the whole point – military superiority by way of weapon systems lesser rivals simply cannot afford to match is a principle going back to at least the Bronze Age war chariots. (Megacorps might an sich have the funds to field such monsters but they are entities that exist to *turn profit* and such large and complex weapon systems are pure and utter money sinks so they won’t, unless they had to start taking over the whole “bigger stick” role from the governements for some reason.)
one would not be surpised to find older molder capital ships and what not floating around hell one could find the hull of said ship in tact enough one could salvage it and with enough funds get it back up to basic capacity and with time restore it to full operation in that operation one can get there hands on said warship though ship graveyards and what not can be the go to place for the parts and or whole ships can be salvaged from there hell there is always the option to raid the ship yards yourself to steal one but that would be ill advised.
also if you had seen the lore the void fleet of pirates have spies and agents inside the government and have corroupted enough officals to have insiders in there, now rooting them out is the way to go but if the government is severally compromised by this then the megacorps would have no choice but to step up to do government rolls once they find enough creditable evidence that the current government was compromised to such a degree that it could not be salvalged in it’s current form. then and only then or something of that sort would they then try and liberate as many military grade ships and capital ships they could get there hands on before the rest get’s taken by the corrouption. and we know one that does mining as it’s trade so they have the resources to do just that and get there hands on capital ships and other systems capable of taking on said ships and winning. so much complexity with it. think in starwars terms the confederacy of independent star systems having dominate “skill” and numbers in the clone wars which severally limited the republic’s space operation etc you will need something of that scale in order to pull off getting capital ships and amassing such fleet for a privet enterprise to operate.
well if you seen the starwars stuff there is several trade clans etc who formed part of the CIS who had the funds etc to make entire amradas of warships manned by droids and was a real threat to the republic fleet and starfighter corps during the clone wars so It is entirely possible for said group to pull it off.
One of the quests on myrellion has a button thats only active if the player has a capital ship at their disposal, so I assume we are getting one at some point.
One of the tiers we reached when the game was originally funded included Capital Ships. So it’s very likely going to happen, it’s just likely going to be real late game content.
why not add the option to use han so AI for the ship?, if it hadnt been added already
Pretty confident that we’ve been waiting on ship upgrades for this specific reason. Best guess our current ship didnt support it but getting her bead from the quest specifies that she desired to be uplinked to your ship. I just feel bad shes been in a storage bead for a good 1000+ days on my file xD
Eh, being unpowered to an A.I. is most likely akin to sleep for us, i.e. time passes but you’re unaware of it.
This being said an interaction between her and the dragonbot if you install her on the sidewinder would be something of a must. After all, youre putting something that she didnt originally design to go in there.
TBH Han So has an enormous amount of stuff that could be added, like taking over a sexbot, whether thats temporarily like the ghost from CoC on Bess and Siegwolf or getting a more permanent andoid to kit her up into being able to temporarily uplink to. But all I can do is speculate.
On a semirelated note, theres also those androids on deck13 we havent been able to do amnything with. Might be a possibility to pick them up for on-ship security in the upcoming future?
Maybe something like in mass effect 3, were edi took over that robot body, and was able to go out with Shepard on missions
Han so L.O. (logistic officer) lol he jokes
I wouldnt expect much from Hand So in that context. The ship system is not connected to her in any way and afaik there are no new plans for her.
you might want to revisit her scenes already in-game. She and the PC discuss hooking her up to your shipboard computer if you negotiate her down
What about the option to put a mortgage on your ship for quick cash?
Where would the old ship gonna go? Like when we get the sidewinder, is there gonna be a private dock that Steele can use to store ships?
Id imagine the hangar at Tavros station is their plan but who knows. Be my best guess since thats where the upgrades and equipment are gonna be anyways
I always thought that upgrades would come from shekka, since she’s your mechanic
Would YOU leave advanced aircraft engineering to some two-bit small-town car mechanic, which is what Shekka essentially is? Dunno ’bout you but I’d rather it be done by properly trained specialists like Whatshisname hanging around your private hangar…
What’s the point of new ships and space battles? What reward am I getting for blowing up pirates and flying a giant ship around that actually impacts the story? I for one would be much happier if all this time and effort was spend on the next planet or two instead of a gratuitous game mechanic.
Also where’s that guy at that’s always offering to help design the space ships cause he’s a space ship expert? I need the laugh.
Oh gee, what would a SPACE THEMED GAME be without battles in space? Sure we’ve been without them the whole time but to pretend in a SPACE THEMED GAME that this sort of thing wouldn’t happen or couldnt happen and everyone just docked somewhere like New Texas and duked it out somewhere neutral like Frozen Teats.
The ship system opens up a whole new world for both user submitted content, as well as story content. As a matter of fact, I think it’s actually going to be detrimental to getting certain parts of the story done. e.g, dealing with black void pirates, which is likely going to have to happen. Or dealing with whoever you fucked with when you freed Maike’s slaves, if you did. Even if you didn’t, you can be sure you’ll have to deal with them either way with the trouble you caused on Zheng Shi.
The word I was trying to use wasnt detrimental, but crucial, Dont ask how my brain mixed it up, I have a mental flat tire rn
The point? It’s a Space Opera. Your ship is as much a part of your crew as Anno or Mitzi is. If you don’t care for it, that’s fine. As for me? I’ve been waiting for ships since the game was announced. I’ll take the loss of time that could be spent on a planet or two if it means I get a whole bunch of ships that I can name and make my own. You have a right to your opinion, but it is not everyones.
And if you don’t like the content, then ignore it.
Spacestation HQ, Fen. It would be a lot of work but it would solve all the storage problems, from weapons to ships to crew.
The crew get their quarters, the guns theirs storage, the upgrades their storage, the ships their parking.
It would also give you a new place for events, and not to mention crew could add their own personal touch to the quarters they are in(fun descriptions of rooms).
Upvote this. Pure genius. But Steele kinda has several decks on Tavros already (like the maternity deck) so I always figured we’d just have everything there. Still a genius idea tho ngl.
Though to go with said spacestation I would want more crew interactions since theyd have more space to move about, and thats a lot more writing that I dont have money or permission from original authors to get comissioned. With something of that scale having 2-3 interactions with each crew member would be nice, but thats a FUKTON of writing to have just for a great idea.
I agree, it’s a awesome idea on paper, but a headache to write
Yowie Wowie the hype is real
Wait, you can buy new ships? I thought the Sidewinder was going to be our first new ship :<
It’s the first ship they’ve worked on that we know we’ll be getting, but I think the idea is that it’s supposed to be a mid/late game quality ship, and as such you might want to buy cheaper upgrades before/more expensive ships after. The ship we’re currently flying on is an old rust bucket that our dad flew when he was young, after all, so it’s probably a good several decades old and obsoleted by now.
Can i have a dreadnought or a capital-ship.
Are you a decently wealthy governement so you can actually foot just the basic running costs. Because those kinds of toys are plain fiscal blackholes.
No i am a god.
A dreadnought IS a capital ship. In fact, it’s one of the largest types of capital ships.
I don’t think it will happen, because you need a large crew, and a expirenced crew, crew that have battle expirence, e.g penny (non cumslut), and Ramis
Are you a capsuleer?
Capsuleer?
i’m just wondering how you install the artpack
Currently the TiTS image pack is a just separate version of the game, so you use whatever swf player/browser that you normally use to play the regular version to play the image pack version.
I’m just wondering how do you install the artpack.
All these comments and no one’s gushing over that Syri art? That’s gorgeous!! Seriously a beautiful coffeepot contrast for our favorite bone-toting pup.
Every night, I see Syri in my dreams.
This is a good representation of what I dream about.
That sounds real gay dude.
Must be sad being afraid of your sexuality.
So, making sure I am following right.
This is STILL the “Basic” ship system, not the actual ship system that Gedan has been working on for some time? Or did the actual ship system get cut down so much that this is just a complete rewrite?
Not quite. this is more of a “temporary” system to get Zheng Shi (Arc?) over and done with whenever, it is by no means going to be a replacement for the one Gedan is working on.
That feel when your dad makes you fly a 200-year-old spaceship in essentially pirate space
That feel when your dad forced you to become a smuggler or a mercenary when you were a teenager.
I can’t fly despite having a ship that has space for 6 crew member and i only have 4
Sounds like you have 3 upgrades/guns installed.