EDIT: The answer to “Will [Piece of Content That Isn’t The Final Dungeon] Ever Get Finished?” is “No.” Please stop asking. Contrary to popular opinion I don’t like being Dreamcrusher McHitler, but you deserve to have the question answered. Working on OG CoC simply isn’t viable (for several reasons) — as evidenced by how much time it’s taken to get this far, or just the time between patches in general. So Dungeon 3 is the last content expansion you can expect for CoC. We know there are definitely loose ends left dangling in CoC; some of them will probably be retroactively removed (the dead-end Helspawn Incest path for example) or edited to sound more complete with the content they have. Others will probably be left the way they are.
So after a mighty 7+ hour long stream and some 6,600 words smashed out, Lethice is *basically* done. Fen wants to write another bad end for her at the least, and for the sake of actually doing a whole week on CoC-week I might jam out a fem-focused win scene if time permits, but… we’re gonna be looking at a placeholder epilogue damn soon (with intent to replace with a full epilogue on the next and probably final CoC week). Unless one of us gets kidnapped by aliens or something today, pretty sure we’ll be able to pass a finished D3 on to the code-dragon department by week’s end.
Lethice’s current scene catalog basically breaks down as
- Breast-focused win-scene for all genders
- Cock-focused win scene
- Corrupt PC voluntary end
- Pure PC good end (for Lethice anyway)
- Petplay-themed bad end
I don’t have any art of Lethice on hand, so have some classic Helia by Adjatha.
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Pet play? =) Bad end? =D
Pet play bad end? <3
😀
Could I ask how you can specifically achieve this bad end ?
Dunno! We’ll see what proc’s Fen’s parasite bad-end, and everything else will hit the petlay one I imagine!
Well I patron his tits for the fact that he was doing CoC after i couldnt do coc donations, i like tits also but, considering if ya hacken away parts im not sure man tbh. its kinda depressing, aw well off to the next game i guess
Well they aren’t taking away parts unnecessarily. They’re only taking away parts that imply there is going to be more content coming. Which basically settles that. They aren’t going to just get rid of Helspawn, Ember, or Owca. They’re just going to make it so it meshes with the story well and leaves no missing strings.
no snipping out loose ends with out closing them because you wanna finish it due to man hour to work on a new project is bit bad from business stand point. Cmon finish what you start don’t snip side stuff just cause it can be a convenient means to the end. T_T
Sage, a ton of that side stuff was written by people that aren’t me. Believe me, if Adjatha or Symphonie showed up to finish Scylla or Dominika, I’d seriously consider coding that stuff in, but I’m not gonna write it for them.
So, are you guys ever going to do anything with Shouldra ever again? I mean, she doesn’t even have a 16-bit sprite, last I checked. Am I the only one who remembers her?
No.
No, as in you’re never doing anything with her again, or as in I’m not the only one who remembers her?
Nevermind, just read the edit to the post. Shame though, shouldra is probably my fav.
Thanks for your hard work. Always hyped about updates for CoC.
No. Her author fucked off ages ago and thinks I’m the devil/hitler.
Who would that be?
Shamblesworth.
Who?
Shouldra’s author?
Another stupid question which I surely will respond in a no but just letting it know.
Katherine 3rd date scene is literally a stub. It would be nice if Adjatha or anyone else could write a scene for it to be added in.
Or just remove at least the 3rd date scene and repeat the second one for all I care however the stub makes you feel sad and kath is an awesome big character in the game.
The date stuff was added by a guy on github. This is a big reason why I’m hesitant about letting other people add shit.
It’s been such a long time that I’ve waited for this! Can’t wait!
Ugh, and now I will have to see if I have a saved CoC file near the end. If I wasn’t busy trying a specific run on Flexible Survival I’d just restart, but I don’t have the time to be running two porny transformation games at once. That, and I’d screw up something somewhere.
I know it’s been forever and I’m sorry for exhuming the skeleton of a dead horse just to beat it… but if CoC is going to get some code again, is there any chance those already existing one-time scenes for Cotton could be fully enabled like they were going to be? Gedan was talking about doing it on the next update, and then CoC development abruptly just stopped entirely.
The only thing being worked on for CoC is the ending, there’s little to no chance of anything else being done for it now or ever, unless your looking into the mod.
Hey, I noticed that somthing about a “red widow” was mentioned in CoC, it said that it could turn you into a “true” drider. Was that ever something you guys were going to pursue?
No.
What is lethice even? Is she a drider or something? All i know is that she’s evil and messed up. Nothing much else
We really don’t know. But I myself always assumed she’s basically a demon-morph omnibus.
I remember having this sort of mental image/story construct/idea of her having become a formless being of pure corruption (contradict, yes shut up) that controls whatever human form she presents as like a puppet. Possibly also floating above her final dungeon tower like a huge purple Vag of Sauron…
A female focus would be nice, and Savin feels like the type to be kidnapped by aliens, lol.
Wait a “pure” pc good ending?! Fen you did this for me didn’t you. T○T (Once bragged about her always pure PC:Eve to Fen.) Now I gave to make Eve again, lost my old data, so alot of work ahead.^^”
“Always pure?” Does that mean she was never butt-raped or anything?
xD, Hey do you know how hard it was to resist everything that tried to rape you, temptation is real! I won’t say I did not have a slutty path though, only Eve’s pure, not me, lol.
:3
So, is the bog ever going to be finished? I don’t think there’s more than three encounters in the entire place.
No.
The pattern continues, perhaps people will never learn.
The only real question involving ‘CoC’ and ‘Finished” is if Savin would write something and give it to the revamp guys, but then that probably is still a hard ‘No.’
No.
But…
No.
Butts.
God damn this game need an ending, and I’m happy to see it finally happening. Finish off CoC, remember it’s greatness, but then look forward to the amazing journeys yet to come in TiTS!
True, but there are many good things that will never be finished now: Minerva purification, Ember eggs hatching, Shouldra, Dominika, Izumi, Loppe…
What was Izumi supposed to have? I didn’t know she had anything more than her encounter in the high mountains.
I dont remember there being anything else with shouldra….
Don’t worry, I can help to bring most of these. I’ve already added Minerva purification as part of my CoC Revamp Mod. I can even work to tie up loose ends.
This is going to be a good opportunity once a new build of CoC comes out. Then I can move the mod over to such build.
Your everyones hero Kitteh I hope you do Helspawn especially and something with Izumi for that matter
I think that’s what I like, the Mod is for those who look for the stuff to be completed but at the same time the actual game is still there to be enjoyed in all it’s steamy glory. Cake and eat it too fellas.
I have to say I might wish the original had gotten more added to it, but seeing the mishmash that it would have to take wading through…it honestly looks like it’d be easier to dismantle the entire thing and start over than do eternal fixes.
So fair well COC, and on to the TITS!
Wait Your planning to make a mod for CoC?!?!?
Check the forums, it exists already. For over a year.
Please, port all the future mods to android, Kitteh-sama.. T^T
Thank you so much for continuing to work on Coc, the revamp is pretty awesome. And a loose end I’ve been hoping forever for is something for Helspawn. Also I thought it was pretty cool that bimbo Jojo was added to the game too.
I’ve tried using mods, but for some reason, I haven’t found one my tablet likes…
Is there something wrong with it? I tried downloading it and stuff, but things keep popping up saying something’s wrong. I’m on a laptop.
In the modded version, minerva’s purification is already complete. It’s pretty awesome.
You guys aren’t going to leave as many loose ends with TITs right? I mean I’m a little frightened that whole characters will just become dead ends, or only have half the content they were supposed to.. I loved CoC and fortunately with Carnal Souls I have a new sexy swords and sorcery outlet ^_^ but the missing paths are frustrating, Thanks for the awesome game!
Yeah, only thing thing being worked on for CoC is Dungeon 3 and the ending, absolutely nothing else.
That is my main concern with donating to patreon… that in a couple of years, fen will find a new project to work on, and tits will be ‘shelved’, followed by ‘discontinued’. I dont mean to sound like a prick, but… after a couple of donations to CoC back during the donation drives, I kinda am pretty sad that CoC is dead. Still, all hail Kitteh for doing that mod! Does he/she have a paypal or patreon I can donate to?
I expect many more years of TiTS development to come, but eventually all games have to actually, you know, finish development. That’s what “discontinued” really means in this context: the game has its ending and shitloads of content. The 1.0 patch comes out, and it’s done.
Actually “finish development” means finish all content, not write an ending and axe all unfinished content. Kinda makes me uncomfortable with supporting TiTS too. And you can’t say 100% that when Fenoxo eventually starts up a new game and shelves this one all content will be finished and it won’t get the CoC treatment. Fen’s kinda making me think of Zero Sum Games(makers of Stardrive) and Bethesda right now. Moving on to a new project before the old one is even finished and expecting modders to finish their games for them respectively.
A Non Y Mouse
every entertainment medium has cases where they cut content, either to make the narrative cleaner or to simply remove unfinished pieces.
@A Non Y Mouse
They have actually learned from their mistakes and murder unfinished content in it’s crib now instead of hopefully waiting for writers to return.
“Actually “finish development” means finish all content,”
No it fucking doesn’t. Allow me to point you to hundreds of pieces of cut content you can dig up in Dark Souls, or whole story arcs in Dragon Age: Origins, including the character background they actually showed off at E3 one year. Originally-planned content gets cut from games *all the time.* It’s part of the development process; if it wasn’t, a hell of a lot of games would never finish at all.
@ Savin
That cut content in Dark Souls probably could only be found by datamining or sifting through the coding, it could not be found nor was it alluded to in the actual game. That Dragon Age character background was in an E3 demo, not in the consumer-level product. A lot of content that is now being axed in CoC was found or alluded to in what is essentially a consumer-level product not a demo and not requiring seperate programs to find. Very different situations.
Except it’s not? CoC wasn’t finished, it wasn’t a “consumer level product” — it hasn’t been out of what amounts to alpha the whole time. Same with TiTS. You get to play these games *as they’re being developed.* You’ll note CoC is not even at Version 1.0 yet; ie, it hasn’t “gone gold.”
Good stories never end or get “discontinued”, that’s why we never see the final episode of Simpsons or South Park or Pokemon. Final Fantasy was as the name implied meant to be a final game but it became a series in it’s own right instead.
World of Warcraft too has yet to finish development and The Sims only struggles because Maxis neglected what made the story good.
Good stories never end, and neither should development.
Z, that *might* be one of the dumbest things I’ve ever heard.
How so?
No. Stories that don’t end are not stories. The best stories have a good ending that wraps everything up in a satisfactory manner. Most of the things you mentioned are actually a number of related stories (a ludicrous number in the case of some) strung together loosely, not a single coherent story. Or, in the case of Final Fantasy, completely unrelated stories, barring a few exceptions or hints to connections.
Then what about Adventure Quest?
Can’t say as I know anything about Adventure Quest, but the structure of a story is:
1) Setup, where the primary characters, their general situation, and whatever the problem that drives the story forward is are all introduced. In Corruption of Champions, this is the beginning where the protagonist is introduced, their general situation (tossed into demon world as sacrifice) is introduced, which also happens to be the primary problem.
2) Conflict, which is usually most of the story, where the character or characters are (surprise) in conflict with one or more somethings, be it other people, an environment, or even themselves…generally characters are developed and change in response to the conflict, though sometimes simply more about the character is revealed…
3) Resolution, when the character or characters finally confront the problem ultimately driving the story, tying together the elements of the story and resulting in an ending…as well as allowing the person experiencing the story – be they the reader, the watcher, the player – to feel satisfied at things finally wrapping up. At least if it’s a good ending, there’s certainly lots of unsatisfying endings.
Now, a story doesn’t necessarily have to have these in order – starting off in the middle of things or even at the ending, then going back to explain how things got to that point – and sometimes a story can be spread out over multiple books/films/games/whatever…but if it doesn’t have all three of those elements it cannot be considered a proper, complete story. For episodic forms of media, generally each episode is its own contained story, showing the characters and their problem, the conflict, and wrapping that aspect up before moving on to the next episode.
So yeah, by definition, any good story ends. It can leave loose threads for future stories to continue – ie, the initial problem has been dealt with but it’s implied there’s a bigger problem that ultimately needs to be taken care of, though – depending on the story – it may not be the role of the main characters of THIS story to handle, simply setting the ground in for a future cast to deal with said problem. There can be a lot of side stuff too, especially in games where it’s entirely up to the player as to whether they want to focus on the main problem or whether they want to explore the various sideplots and non-main character arcs. But in the end, there should be an ending…even if you can continue playing afterwards. Leaving you satisfied that you have tackled the main problem your character was presented with.
Patreon’s monthly model fits well with some projects, but sometimes it does more harm than good. Patronage is a longstanding tradition about supporting an artist out of appreciation for works they’ve already done; not buying a piece of their soul to wave about like a cracking whip. Regardless of the perks, any money given has to be considered a donation and not an investment.
What does Pure PC Good end (for Lethice) mean?
Does Lethice get a good end alongside the PC?
Pretty much, yeah.
So I can’t kill her for the good of the world? Wait, why would I be bff with a known evil queen demoness, she brainwashed me! xD
Hey, you don’t HAVE to take the ending. It’s there if you want to try and purify Lethice, but you can still murder her instead.
Will Ember ever be finished? ;-;
This makes me pretty sad. Like the end of a wonderful dream. Full of dicks and bodily fluids.
No.
Addendum: Ember IS finished. Pretend like you never learned about Pure/Corrupt route; there’s nothing in-game that evidences them AFAIK. If something does, bug report it and we’ll probably axe it.
Yeah, Ember always seemed fine to me, the whole “pure ember” thing seemed superfluous to me. If anyone would make sense for that it’d be Kiha in the sense that she had been altered by the Demons, but even then her character is one of the most stable. Still, kudos to Savin, Fex, and Gedan for writing 2 of my favorite drake girls!
I thought when you give her succubus milk it hints towards it? Though I could definitely be wrong
It’s content that was gonna be written, but seeing as to how the writer is over at FoE, I highly doubt it would’ve even been written if the only thing being worked on for CoC wasn’t just dungeon 3 and the ending.
The only unfinished thing with Ember that I can discern is that all those eggs she (and maybe the PC) pop out never hatch. If you guys were still working on CoC and not finishing it up, I’d suggest a plot element be that all those little dragons you churn out replace the Phoenix as the sand witches’ battle steeds.
Unless Kitteh expands on Ember in the mod, Ember is finished in every sense of the word. You can consider this the answer to every question you may possibly have. “Will X ever be done?” Unless Kitteh puts it in the revamp mod, then the answer will be no.
On the fourth day of CoC-Week, Fenoxo gave to meeee!
<3
Will the driders goblin slave join our camp as our slave or have her own scenes since I remember reading about getting her and having fun before given the choice to take her or not. And I remember it was brought up on coc week 2
I’m not sure what you’re talking about (is that a drider-goblin slave, or a goblin slave of driders, or a drider slave of goblins?), but unless it’s part of the final dungeon the answer is no (not wanting to preempt Savin or Fen, but y’know).
It’s a pretty simple thing-
IF [content] does not equal [Final Dungeon!content] THEN
[content] will not be worked on.
Yeah it apart of the final dungeon one of the bosses pets
All this talk about Ember and Shouldra, Im conserned about Helspawn, will she be finished?
I shouldn’t be so amazed and yet I am.
The answer is no, by the way.
TBF I think he posted that like, 5 minutes before I made the edit.
But still, pattern recognition 😛
Question: If/When you guys finish TITs would CoC 2 be a consideration? OR would you most likely want to do something completely new. Along the lines of carnal souls?
(And yes I realize this is a question of complete pointlessness since anything can change at anytime, but I was intrigued on what the current atmosphere is. Also if the plan is to make TITs 20 times the size of CoC then no worries!)
CoC 2 sounds nice because they could preserve the lore of that particular universe. On the other hand it could also be a bit restrictive or even intimidating..if not boring.
What i’m interested in is what kind of possible setting a future project would have. Something akin to the still popular Superhero genre or maybe a Survival Horror environment. Something along the lines of what the World of Darkness established.
I would certainly like to know what the artists would like to try in future projects.
Please stand by for future project announcements.
A superhero themed game would be awesome just imagine all the sex name hero/villian names and powers.
It is a heart-breaker that CoC will never truly be done. I personally prefer traditional fantasy over Sci-fi, but fairness was never a virtue of today’s world. *shrug*
But! There’s always FoE to fill that void. I can’t wait for the next progression.
Fen may be the Pioneer, but thank god for Alder keeping it alive!
And Benji with Carnal Souls, soon!
Fantasy and mythical elements are not permitted in Trials in any way?
It’s not that it isn’t permitted, but it’s that that kind of stuff will probably stay as fiction (written in books/stories), superstition (unverified beliefs based on ignorance) or hearsay (rumors) in the TiTS universe as the setting is more grounded in theme of science fiction than high-fantasy fiction. There will be instances of the supernatural, but more often than not it would be explained with sci-fi technobabble instead of being clouded in mysticism. High-fantasy aesthetics may also appear (like armor and weapons), but again, it’s not the foundation of the universe so it may be unique to a certain society, group of characters or item.
TiTS already has elves and goblins. Swords and bows are effective weapons against laser guns and force-field generators. Space magic exists and will make its first appearance come next planet (along with dragons).
So take a wild guess on whether fantasy elements are allowed.
Prefer CoC over other games like TiTs and FoE. I still await for the completion of other unfinished parts, like Urta’s fertility quest that enables her to knock-up other NPC like Edryn and Amily, or Amily and Katherine threesome, or even that witch from the bar at night, teaching you spells.
It’s such a shame that this great game is being disscontinued, and yet not complete.
I have worked on a game project myself, and that became a failure, and that left a bad taste for me.
If there was a patreon for this, I would support it. But I guess this is it.
I was hoping to see a 3D game of CoC, but that was wishful thinking.
Well. merry X-mas everyone.
P.S.: Out of curiousity, Since Urta could cock-vore the Champion when a Slime-body, then unbith/birth Edryn after sex, could a unbirth scene been a work for Izuma, because of her size?
kinda sad to see most of the stuff go unfinished but i guess we gotta move onto greener pastures or whiter pastures
Will there be any content added outside the final dungeon on the side.
When the first part of the dungeon was implemented I think Erkling was added alongside it, along with a couple of other things.
I’m not going to bother asking about unfinished content as you already answered that.
Probably not. The vast majority of finished content is already in the game.
Will you add to the official CoC, finished content, or or ends to the loose ends make for 3rd parties like the mod site?
No, I have no intention of writing anything for CoC anymore once it’s done. Because it’s done now.
You aren’t Dreamsmasher McHitler you just told the truth. I think a while ago I mentioned my hope that something would happen with helspawn I was aware of how unlikely that was. Curious will the endings for Lethice also be considered part epilogue or will there be a seperate epilogue scene? I feel like I’m trying to give y’all more work when you are pretty much done.
There will be separate epilogues, describing the future of your Champion, on top of what you do with Lethice.
In all honesty, I’m genuinely not surprised CoC is going to be left in a mostly incomplete state. Not to sound like a jerk or anything, but you always seem to have a different attitude towards CoC whenever it’s brought up. Like, you always seem happy and productive whenever TiTS is on the table for coding, yet whenever you force yourself back into ‘ol CoC, it’s almost like you’re tired and sick of it. At least that’s what it seems like in your news posts.
Yeah, looking at the way they have been struggling with this it isn’t really that huge a shocker. I remember Fenoxo talking about how the code for CoC is also just so much more spaghetti than TiTs. To make CoC as easy to work with as TiTs would take forever. Not to mention how TiTs is just where their interests lie at this point.
Still I am very sad at the news. I am a hardcore fantasy lover, so honestly I have always found CoC a lot more fun. Sci Fi can be interesting and it definitely deserves the fan base it has, but for me it’s always been about the mythical creatures and the magic. A personal preference, true, and to try and demand that because of my preference they should try harder with CoC would be a strong example of egoism.
But I’ll still be sad. I’ll just be wishing that at some point, maybe after TiTs has been completed, CoC will be remembered. An unlikely scenario, but one I will be clinging to nevertheless.
Isn’t there the mod for it that’s being worked on? It looks decent enough, looks like it’s adding some good, new content.
Once TiTs is done, Fen has given permission for Savin to do CoC 2, case you didn’t know.
Please stand by for future project announcements.
How’s this for the CoC 2 slogan. CoC 2, now with bigger horse cock.
Partly has to do with the fact that CoC’s code is utter garbage that they hate using, at least compared to TiTs which is much easier for them to use. CoC was built when Fen was still learning to code after all, plus it is a mish mash of code that got a little broken near the end.
That is probably the biggest reason for why the Devs sound like that, also them getting fatigue working on CoC and from people asking for it.
Can confirm Fen is farming codework out to Gedan if at all possible. CoC code was spaghetti to begin with, the the Open Source guys went in and changed it all under his feet, so Fen struggles to even figure out what’s going on.
Plus 2+ years of constant TiTS work which operates very differently.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but writing is the most of the workload and all that text isn’t existing only as a part of code?
Writing takes a huge amount of effort, yes, and it does exist outside the code (as Google Docs, then added to the game content). That said, CoC is a mess, so adding things to it does take a great deal of effort.
CoC is hardly “mostly incomplete.” Not by a long shot. There’s a few characters that could have used expansion, but the core of the game’s been basically *done* since before TiTS was even started. All that’s ever been left to do is Dungeon 3, and then the once-possible infinite waifu expansion.
By “”mostly incomplete””, I actually mean [bullshit excuse goes here].
Nah. For the most part I guess my view comes from the fact that I’ve pretty much torn CoC a new asshole when it came to exploring the content it had in-game. In all honesty, I’m glad it’s finally getting an ending.
So Basically, no more official updates? and any further progress with COC will come from the COC mod group?
No more official updates planned. Bugfixes and the like may continue to happen, if they pile up.
Well, there will be a patch with a barebones mini-epilogue after we polish off the writing. Then later I want to get bigger, more fleshed out epilogues in.
And then finally, a postgame goblin slave I got inspired to write mid-dungeon.
Whooo goblin slave! Is it a existing goblin tamani or someone new
It’s a slave of one of the dungeon’s NPCs (a Drider Incubus, I believe).
Hmmm, not sure who I’d like to have more, a goblin slave or a certain purple-haired slut.
After TiTs is done, they could do a revamp and remake CoC from scratch. Bad idea and almost no chance of happening, but hey, the unexpected can happen.
All they have to do to get a revamp of CoC is reopen it to open source once it gets the complete stamp. Then the wave of refactoring and code changes without sufficient quality control that so pissed off Fenoxo can resume.
TBH if they dont plan on working on it any longer, and someone wanted to willingly pick up the work, then they should hand it off.
personal opinion.. i really didnt like TiTs last i tried it but do like CoC. just my preference though. probably why i dont even come here often anymore. i know they gave up on CoC.
Personally? I’d prefer they try something new instead of rehashing the same thing over and over. One of the reasons I love TiTS so much is how different it is to most other porn games. And it’s also a genuinely good Sci Fi game even without the porn.
So when they DO inevitably finish TiTS I want them to try something new again. For instance, It’d be interesting to see an Urban Fantasy setting used, or maybe Steampunk, possibly Cyberpunk, or perhaps the one that I’d personally love to see, a Post Apocalyptic Setting.
CoC was amazing, but it’s had it’s time. Let it have it’s ending and then let it rest. If you want that sword and sorcery feel you have Fall of Eden, which is awesome. And if you really, REALLY want CoC there’s Kitteh’s mod which is still having stuff added to it.
Fall of Eden really is great. And it deserves all the money CoC saw and more.
You know that’s not a half bad idea. When TiTS is done or wrapping up, they could put time into basically “porting” CoC into a better framework to make updates easier and then, mostly (though I know it’s not this easy), copy paste the game into the new framework. Charge for it, people will pay, and then continue updates on it as a side-project. The groundwork is already laid, they just need to put that initial work in to update the framework.
well pity no new smut but yay final ending but will people like the one mod dude way above me actually be able to play doc Frankenstein on CoC because granted it may not be our mighty overlords it is at least a small spark of hope for us poor minions
Savin there is a modded version of CoC that was waiting on this dungeon to be finished. If anything I would recommend posting there stable build. their version adds survival traits to the game (food, water, ect.) No need to take content out that will eventually be picked up by the githubbers! 😀 thanks for everyones hard work and finally finishing the dungeon! TiTs can be worked on now! woo hoo!
https://fenoxo.com/forum/index.php?/topic/5-coc-revamp-mod-v134-for-coc-094/
this is the “modded version” created from the community. I recommend giving it a look into if you are interested but this project is dead to you as far as motivation to add more to it. the community can pick up where you left off!
No thanks. Really not a big fan of the mod; certainly not going to officially endorse it.
Why don’t you like the mod?
Ok, I have a question for the devs that I have not seen asked or answered on the forums and if it has, I missed it and am not attempting to resurrect a dead horse.
The question being: Will there ever be a successor to COC or a Fantasy setting TITS style game? I get the coding and story of COC have been done to death and isn’t worth more effort than just trying to end it as cleanly as possible. But I am curious as to whether or not the fantasy genre is equally finished for you or if you’ll do another game with the benefit of the experience gathered from COC and TITS?
Either way, good luck on closing the book and focusing on the holodisk as it were.
Emphatic “Yes.”
Please stand by for future project announcements.
still happy to see an ending close in sight to this great journey nonetheless. i’m not too worried about it being truly unfinished because I can always have mods to fix that.
p.s.: i’m guessing you mean the forthcoming update is the last update? you just said ‘ no more content expansions,’ so by that i thought you just meant that more content is not being added.
will there be any updates ever pushed out after the official release (not to add content) but to just fix bugs, typos, and minor stuff like that after the next update or is the next update truly the last one?
Yeah, Dungeon 3 is the last content update.
Future bugfix builds are not entirely out of the question.
I’m a bit confused. Does that mean we’re getting a build this week for the finale, or that it’s being put off again until the next coc week? I only check this blog once a month or so and want to know if i can safely wander off.
New build probably won’t be coming this week — we’re writing the content right now. Up to Our Lord and Savior Gedan as to when a new build is ready.
guys just blow your load and forget about it that’s one good thing Hollywood taught us
What do you mean no more updates for CoC? Like, are you real? You can’t crank out 1 more update to polish up the game and tie loose ends? I’m pretty sure you’re getting paid for your work, well, not the CoC specifically, but taking a piss at your fanbase and being a lazybone practically at the finishing line is a total dickmove.
At least you could have given a better explanation than “it isnt viable”.
We are cranking out one more update — two, actually. Pay the fuck attention.
You mean beside finishing the final quest?
The first update will be completing the third dungeon. After that is done, they will attempt to tie up any loose ends through the epilogue and by pruning anything that points towards “unfinished” content.
Alright, thanks. Still feels like underperforming, but hopefully the mod community will fix that.
Savin and Fen get ‘paid’ for TiTS. They’ve said ever since starting TiTS that they would not work on CoC other than the Final Dungeon for, literally, over two years at this point. Acting like they ‘have’ to do more than that is, well, kinda idiotic and just makes you look like a self entitled asshole.
They’re giving the game a proper ending, which it deserves, and then are ending it. Yes, the game is going to have unfinished content. Well duh. It’s content that comes from the public. Most of those authors aren’t even around anymore to DO the content even if the Fen crew were fully invested in CoC and JUST CoC.
If you HAVE been paying them through patreon you can easily stop sending them money, though I do wonder why you would be giving them money in the first place when you don’t like what they’re currently doing and HAVE been doing for well over two years. But either way, your money is your money.
This, across the board.
I don’t check the fenoxo website on the daily basis, bonehead, I come here once a month just to see if there are any new updatres.
And I do feel entitled since I backed original CoC out of me pocket, and this sort of side-sweeping the previous game does not send a good message for the other game’s future support. And it’s the kind of this asshole-ish attitude of “Ya, it’s not gonna ever be finished but WDGF” that upsets me.
And don’t give me that “content comes out of the public” crap. There is clearly a CoC mod that is willing to pick up the pieces but nobody from the dev team wants to do endorse it, cause *reasons*.
Who’s to say Fen won’t just drop TiTs in 2 year and move on the next project without properly finishing it?
I don’t like my games being unfinished, what is this, Electronic Arts? It’s not a fucking new game system that needs to be implemented, but just a buncha character arcs. Could have at least given a better reason, these guys clearly know how to treat a loyal fanbase!
It’s a matter of opinion whether the CoC mod is something you like or not. It’s already featured on the forum. Plus, working on the same thing for two+ years can be a bit tiresome. If you like the mod for having more content and tied up loose ends then you can support that, Maybe get some of the people there to finish whatever content you wanted finished. Just be glad the games getting an ending other than being completely abandoned and forgotten about like other porn games.
But this isn’t a free game, not some side-project a student does in his spare time using flash, alright? This was a backed project with a promise of a polished game, and I’m somehow in the wrong here for asking it to just be a complete experience? The least they could do it let the community fiddle with it, instead of acting all hostile and stuck u. Srsly, you dont act this way to the people that give you money.
CoC isn’t a backed project. There were donations made towards it but unlike TiTS it was never sold. If you put money towards CoC as a donation it was exactly that. You were never promised a complete game and you certainly weren’t purchasing one. The TiTS backers however were promised a complete game and that’s all the more reason why Fen can’t afford to waste time on CoC anymore.
CoC was EXACTLY a free game some dude made in his spare time. He took donations, but you sure as hell didn’t preorder some early-access game on Steam here. You were never promised anything, much less a polished, finished product.
I don’t know where you got them from, but you are laboring under some very misguided notions about CoC.
Guys stop, the 13th Amendment makes it illegal to own niggas like this.
Well hey, then you have no one to blame for your lack of ignorance but yourself. Especially since every single time CoC’s even had the slightest bit of mention they’ve ALWAYS said they would only work on the ending and that’s it. Once again, for well over TWO YEARS now. You have no excuse.
I’ve been here since 2011. I remember when the only female enemy in CoC was the goblin. Don’t treat me like some newbie who doesn’t know how shit happened back then. He accepted DONATIONS for him to work on a certain project for a certain amount of time. You paid him x amount of money for x amount of work. And he kept to it, every, fucking, time. So don’t you complain about how ‘ooh, poor me, I payed money!” You paid money of your own volition for him to work on a single project to be implemented in the game.
The Dev team doesn’t add in the content BECAUSE THE CREATORS LEFT. That content is the creators. Kitteh is adding content that wasn’t originally created by the authors of those characters nor approved by the authors. Personally, I don”t care. The authors made the characters knowing that they would be put in and likely edited by Fen at the time. So Kitteh doing it doesn’t bother me. But it DOES apparently bother Savin and Fen. Which is why they don’t officially endorse it and instead simply allow it to continue on. Which is good enough for me.
No shit TiTS is going to have unfinished content. As I’ve said, IT TAKES DONATIONS FROM THE PUBLIC. These are people unaffiliated and dissociated with TiTS. There are going to be LOADS of content that will NEVER be finished. That should have been obvious from the start. That should have been obvious when the team that was working on Ember quit, that should have been obvious when no more content for Owca should have come about. No. Shit.
“What is this? Electronic Arts?” No, this is an independent game developer who NEVER once said you would be getting a full game. He even said that originally he intended to only have the three dungeons and that’s it. The fact that we got as much as we did should be CELEBRATED. No one on the team wants to work on CoC. No one. They HATE the coding that goes into the game. But they’re doing it anyway to please the fans, make them happy, and bring the game to a closure.
Also “This isn’t a free game” Really? Because if that were so I wouldn’t be here. I don’t know about you, but if you’re paying for CoC you’re getting gypped boyo. “The least they could do is let the community fiddle with it” and you DIRECTLY mentioned the Kitteh mod on your own.
Okay, whatever, I thought that kickstarter campaign was for CoC too.
Ya, but they’re no endorsing the mod.
Some people need to learn humility, geez.
It isn’t a show of humility to endorse a collection of characters being raped in the arse. Some people don’t like ze mod. Taking characters written by someone else and writing your own shitty content for them isn’t admirable. Or just taking someone else’s work and putting that in your project without asking the creator whether this would be okay. In current society, this is known as plagiarism and frowned upon.
So, no, the mod shouldn’t be endorsed. You might enjoy it. That’s entirely up to you. But supporting these practices is rotten to the core. And I’m quite happy that Savin decides not to.
As per Sanguine’s words, please correct me if I’m wrong (because I feel I will be!), but…
a) Most writers are gone, so it’d be very difficult to ask for their permission. Even if they were still around, the labour of love CoC is means that there were a lot of people involved. I just can’t see a mod collaborator asking them one by one.
b) CoC is open source, and I reckon it could allow people to edit already existing contents, including characters.
Disclaimer: I am not a mod enthusiast (though I have played it every now and then) and I can see why Fen & co wouldn’t endorse it: Anon explained it, especially that legalese part about how writers have no rights over the submitted contents once said contents are on.
On topic now, I thank everyone who made CoC. Here’s hoping for more solid games in a near future. Ones I can enjoy, if possible!
I’ve never taken any enjoyment from TiTS, and became a patreon supporter solely because I wanted to support Fenoxo’s ongoing work on other projects, and I felt he was owed for all the work he’d done on CoC so far. At the time, CoC was still getting one day a week of development. When those CoC days stopped and it became clear they weren’t coming back, I cancelled my patreon support. I don’t really regret it, because I’d already gotten an immense amount of satisfaction from CoC without paying for it, but I think it’s disingenuous to imply Fenoxo never gave the impression he was going to keep working on CoC after TiTS development started. If the TiTS campaign had advertised itself as “Pay Fenoxo to Never Work On CoC Again!” I don’t think it would have done so well.
It was billed as not having to keep Fen chained to the donation day model to pay food and rent.
Which, by the way, is how CoC donations worked: you weren’t paying for a finished game, you were paying for Fen to spend X number of hours on writing/coding a particular piece of content for CoC. Oftentimes he would throw in an extra 2-3 hours to get something finished that he wouldn’t get paid for at all. You were paying for a one-and-done service, and you often got more than you paid for.
“I’m pretty sure you’re getting paid for your work,”
All the money that has come in over the past two years or so has been explicitly for TiTS. If anything, we’re shirking our responsibilities by finishing CoC at all.
Stop looking the gift horse in the mouth.
hey Fen no CoC questions from me right now I am busy deleting it from my mind so the pain will stop but I was wondering in tits when we become king of the nyreans the queens daughter will she get more stuff
Personally, I appreciate the fact that you’re finishing the dungeon at all. Its the only thing that annoys me atm. Thanks loads for taking the time, i honestly mean it
This, 100%. Fen and co. could have just left CoC unfinished and just completely focused on the breath of fresh air that writing and coding TITS is, apparently. I’m happy that we’re at least getting an ending instead of just being left wandering a half-finished Mareth.
Why do some people complain about getting stuff for free, anyways?
“Why do some people complain about getting stuff for free, anyways?”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2s56IQzsBE
But really, people are always going to find something to complain about and they are always going to ask for more (even if CoC was “finished”). Sadly, they don’t realize that their incessant whining is the main reason their aren’t getting their way.
Savin has a new reply other then no. awesome.
“Please stand by for future project announcements.”
not a request for new content, just sharing an idea on how to wrap up Helspawn incest path:
correct me if i’m wrong, but after helia moves into camp, you cant get her pre-lover plains sex scenes again. would it be easy for the helspawn incest option to use those scenes? iirc, the pre-mino encounter ones don’t even mention hellia by name or scalecolor (in the case of the drider-boy egg option)
No, her options are totally still available after coming to camp. Just spar with her.
derp, forgot about that. whelp, my teal-deer of a post below kinda works then i guess? again, its a sugestion, not a demand, as to how to close out the helspawn incest without deleting the whole mess. you are the content creator after all.
again, take this as a suggestion, not as a demand for more/new content! you don’t like it, then don’t use it!
did some digging through the flag lists and coc save editor to see what those scenes may be returning, and looked at a tad of how to impliment. bear in mind i do NOT have the source code, so i’m working from educated guesstimates here:
part one: getting to the helspawn incest sex menu.
talking to helspawn about incest-> yes incest sets the HELSPAWN_INCEST flag (970), so that can trigger the menu the next time around. so far so good.
part two: the menu / the scenes.
the menu itself should be relatively easy to copy-paste from the Helia sex menu. probably the version from the plains encounter with berserking off and minos off would be easiest to use.
Introing the scenes could get away with a one liner along the lines of ‘so how should we fuck, daddy?’
As to the scenes themselves, finding and replacing “Helia” with “Helspawn Name”, and (if needed) “Red Scales” with “Helspawn Scale Color Scales” should do the trick. i can’t think of any other Helia-specific references off the top of my head.
part three: post-scene and returns (to camp and data)
Closing the scene out is the one spot that may need a tad of rewriting above and beyond Find / Replace text. as the PC hasn’t left the camp, any lines about returning to the camp may need tweaking.
In terms of the data returns, and again going by what i can see in the flags list, you would need to delete the code incriminating Helia’s affection etc. (we just bonked Helspawn after all), and change the code incriminating the HEL_FUCK_COUNTER flag (394), amusing this is the one used for the stats screen, to a new flag, HELSPAWN_FUCK_COUNTER, also for the stats screen.
as far as I can tell without digging through the source code, that should be all that is needed to get Helspawn Incest working without adding whole new scenes, and without heavily modifying existing ones. the helspawn plains sex menu includes naga and centuar morph scenes already. the centuar ones mention galoping across the plains, so they may need a one line ‘you go to the plains’ intro as opposed the changing the return to camp line, but thats the only case spicific one i can think of.
and the glorious Savin has reminded me of Helia’s post-sparing already using that menu, so thats another way in that would be even neater, in term of copy-paste than having to use a version of the plains menu.
so i take it once it end the guy that made the revamp wont be given permission to put all the other event wrote ?
What?
hes not related to fen& co afak. savin stated that he wasn’t giving the guy his blessing, as he doesn’t like some of the content, but put up no blocks.
Well, I’ll block people from abusing *my* characters, and I’ll continue to frown heavily on them stealing unsubmitted, unfinished work and putting it in without consulting the creators.
a good point.
Sooo, if he/she/they asked permission, you’d give it?
I just heard we get a Dreamcrusher McHitler encounter, did anybody else hear that?
Seriously though, I think rounding the unfinished encounters off (aka removing placeholders and options that make no sense or aren’t going to get finished) would be perfect to put an end to CoC.
So, say in theory someone had an idea for “I want to add [X] to the game” and looked into the git then wrote it out, with proper coding/snytax/connections for various things done themselves and everything, so all Fen needs to do is paste it into the various parts of the repository. Say they then post it to the forums, would you guys be against the infrequent occasional “community update” in the future for content like that?
They could release it as a mod if they wanted, like what Kitteh does. Otherwise, they could put their encounter in as a pull request along with an email of the event text for me to review.
I should stop being lazy and get back to learning how to code. If I werr good enough I would offer to overhaul CoC just for the hell of it. I like TiTS more than CoC but loose ends annoy me.
Personally, I don’t see anything other than Lethice in CoC that needs expansion (Minerva excluded, I have a soft spot for her) but if it’s that much of a problem to where a good deal of the game is supposedly left undone, perhaps it’d be prudent to offer a disclaimer in the future to people who have character ideas.
I.E, don’t write a character whose story you have no intention of finishing.
Is it actually possible for someone to draw an image of Lethice? You don’t have to put it in the game or so, but it’s just that I (and probably lots of other people) are really curious to how she looks like/you guys envisioned her 😉
If you want me to I’m willing to do commission someone for it.
Btw, since there’s lots of people nagging on the post about CoC, I just want to say this:
Thank you Fen and Savin (and the other guys who worked on CoC) for what you’ve done and for rounding up some last loose ends 😉
I think there was a description on the old blog at some point. You could always ask Fen for a description if you really want to commission it.
Alright thanks, but how exactly do I ask him?
I would assume his email, which I’m pretty sure is fenoxo@gmail.
Almost 150 comments. cool.
Took me an entire day, but I feel better now. Yes it took me that long to stop feeling devastated about this. I’m somewhat easily affected by bad news sometimes.
I just want to say to Savin, Fenoxo, and the entire team that you guys are doing a great job and I’m grateful you are still going so far to give the game a proper ending even with all the trouble it brings you. Seriously, thank you, you guys are great.
I’m looking forward to future content and I would be lying if I said that I wasn’t partially cheered up and made excited by Savin’s talk about future projects.
Thank you based smutlords.
So like I posted months ago. We’re getting screwed over because Fen wanted to make a new game, and forget about the one that put him on the radar. Not surprising.
Nah, that’s just you not reading all the posts covering why Fen doesn’t want to work on CoC. Try again when you’re actually informed of the situation.
This saddens me.
“I don’t like being Dreamcrusher McHitler…”
No offense Fen. Really trying to say this in the chilliest way I can, but you were already that a long time ago. I suppose at the end of it all I should still give you some thanks, since CoC was a mostly fun ride and the silver lining to this is that we actually get an ending at all.
Fen didn’t make this post, yo. :V
Reading is hard.
Where does it state the author of a post?
Disregard I found it. Smaller than it was so I didn’t see for the longest time for some reason
Blind people can read? Who knew?
Pretty sad considering the game they are all talking about is text based.
Look, shit happened (mainly with fans bothering admins) to the point the fans itself crushed CoC.
However, we are lucky to even see the last boss delt with, and that Mino dungeon thing Fen is making us. You also need to remember we have an interesting future in similar games with TiTs, Carnal Souls, and Fall of Eden. It’s not as if we are left with nothing.
It’s a little sad that so many loose ends will stay that way, such as with Ember, Brooke or Gargoyle, and how it’s mostly due to the absence of their respective writers. 🙁
But may I ask: Since it’s the ending that is being worked on, will we get epilogue endings with our followers or Romantic Partners? (i.e Urta) It’d be nice to get some praise from each one specifically. I’d probably be asking too much if you could choose ‘alternate ends’ where you decide to settle down with one particular follower (or all of them) like in Monster Girl Quest. xP
How is gargoyle a loose end???
only “loose end” -ish think i can see about her is that the cathedral never gets rebuilt entirely. but that has no in-game effect, as Gargoyle-lass never leaves the ruins anyway. had one playthorugh where i only ever encountered her once.
I kind of thought we could eventually free her or teach her independence but maybe I just haven’t seen all her scenes yet.
Out of curiosity; what did everyone end up calling their Gargoyle? I went with Nocturnal.
I alternate between Terra (b/c she is made of stone) and Gargoyle,, b/c i like to use the ‘cannon’ name ie the one that shows up in the flags. same for helspawn and latex goo, i always call them that.
Like what? Fen didn’t screw over anyone. CoC is and has always been free, it never costed anyone a dime. The only money Fen accepted for CoC was donations to work certain hours on the game. Yes, DONATIONS. He never promised anything. There was only ever three dungeon planned, which he is finishing now.
Nearly all the “unfinished” content people bitch about is things written by other people than Fen, Savin and Gedan. People who has long since abandoned what they started, and it certainly isn’t Fen’s job to finish third parties work.
Look the game Flexible Survival, another big porn game. There is tons of content there written by third parties which was never finished. This kinda content eventually get cut by the developers or polished/cut to work in its current state. This isn’t anything unique to CoC.
I played CoC way back when there was virtually no content. I’m one of those cheap bastards who have never donated a single buck, who is just grateful Fen & Crew provide us with an awesome free smut game.
I don’t understand how people can feel entitled to something which has always been given to them for free. :p I for one look forward to more content in Tits, a game which Fen actually crowdsourced.
this is a T.I.T.S question is there a chance we can get more hairstyles for the pc and bess I would love to have them have two braided pigtails like Cammy (street fighter) and Jinx (league of legends)
that’s my fave hairstyle next to short hair
Aw, I’ve been waiting for a Helspawn update for a while. Welp, as long as the game is finally getting a concrete ending.
the day the magic died
Hey, just a random girl passing by. Reading the often hateful comments, I thought I’ll stop just lurking and actually say something : I loved this game and I’m really glad you’re giving some time to end it the way you’re doing it. Can’t wait to see the result ! I like TiTs too, and I’m looking forward the next updates. Thanks for all =)
Just want to post thanks to you guys for polishing this one off. For all you whingers out there: the kind of loose ends that CoC made are always a problem in games involving fan-contributed content. Besides, the trauma of sticking one’s hand deep in the dark, musty confines of old code is always a nightmare.
A possible proposal for future projects (beyond TiTS) might be to make all 3rd-party non-contracted content modular (i.e. as checkable ‘mods’ in the settings/menu) so if it really breaks your boner that your favorite furry/scaly/slimy slave/follower/dom/sub fem/trans/male/andro cock/tail/vag/ass/oral – sucker/fucker/filler/slut doesn’t get finished, you can just go unfill the appropriate box.
(I know, not nearly enough options above; all double entendres probably intended).
Eh shugs.
Made me wish I could grab Symphonie’s attention and smack her so she would finish Dominika.
But no, got too intimitaded by the lass back in the day and dumped the one PM with contact information when she left Darknest after the take over.
/smacks facepalm.
Anyways, as a game lurker I’d like to thank ye guys for all the time and effort placed into this game and wish ye luck with TiTs (if I ever see it pop up in steam i’ll prolly buy it.. or see it finished somewhere else, will see) and other projects.
And sorry, but I had a good laugh about all the comments going on about how its in their right or shaking their trust in you two for not fully rounding up a game which was more a community project at start then anything else.
So long and thanks for all the fish!
Don’t panic!
They are very easy to find on hentaifoundry and tumblr.
I am disappointed that you are leaving CoC more or less forever, because I just prefered the theme of CoC over TiTS. However there is always the off chance you will make a CoC 2, or something else with a similar theme. TiTS seems to be coming along well anyhow, and I guess once this update goes live I will play a bunch of CoC and see all the new stuff and dive head long into TiTS properly.
Out of curiosity have you ideas for a theme of any other games you want to do in a few years, if not anytime soon? You can decline to answer of course.
Considering a lot of people (myself included) love Fantasy, making another fantasy game seems like a good choice.
I’d love to make a Magepunk/Dungeonpunk style game at some point, tho.
Why doesnt everyone just pool their resources so we can finish CoC for good, no matter how long it takes. Im pretty sure everyone would be willing to deal with a lack of tits content in exchange for the finishing of CoC.
We did.
It’s basically finished now.
CODE MORE CODE! =3
I know a “module” for TiTS was shown at one point, would be possible to port CoC over to whatever framework you all built for TiTS? Or use the module idea to create a fantasy based game?
Please stand by for future project announcements.
There is an ‘Import from CoC’ button in the TiTs save editor. So, donate if you haven’t!
Unfortunately the save editor is currently only available to a limited number of Offbeatr donators (or at least it was the last time I checked). Fenoxo has mentioned that he might make it available to others at some point in the future (My guess would be after they have all the game mechanics and parsers finalized)
I usually just lurk, but after reading some of these comments I figured I should say this:
Thanks for making (and continuing to make) really cool and fun games for everyone, and even making them free. Keep on trucking guys <3
Gonna chime in, too, I guess. CoC is what sucked me into this site (well, actually the original one, way before the Great Fen Blog Cataclysm…you know, that thing this last August). Fell in love with TiTS much the same way. Whether it’s D3 getting wrapped up or MOAR ALIEN FUNTIME on some distance planet in God-knows where in the known Universe, I’ll take what ever you guys feel like pushing out — TiTS, CoC, or what ever else comes to mind. All these “please do this” and “can you finish that” shenanigans; it’s something I’ve never quite understood.
So, whether you guys give us a way to actually mess up Lethice’s already long day or feel like adding some more Zo’dee scenes (I’m I the only one who thinks she is the cutest thing in TiTS art?), bottom line is: Thank you. CoC has already come a long way and TiTS is already getting there too, so thank you guys for all the hard work, blood, sweat, and tears included.
Don’t forget cum. Lakes and rivers of cum…
You can bury a town in the stuff.
its a shame, but undersandable. i mean hearing about the eldrich nighmare that masqurades as code, the dozen or so half finnished story lines. and of course the new games(s) that are being worked on.
tho tbh i rather like playing with CoC as opposed to playing with TiTs (never thought id say that).
but then things go on. i guess well see how tits and foe and anyother games do.
Gotta love those double entendres.
comment lvl: 202. cool.
But seriousy. Savin, you should start a area in the forums for people to start giving ideas for a new game. Just make sure to keep a notebook page(or something) that contains the ones you like best.
No thanks.
it was just an idea.
Definitely sad CoC is getting shelved… Especially since I only discovered it like a month ago… I imagine it isn’t very easy for Savin or Fen reading all the comments lamenting over it (or at least i hope that’s the case and not that they’re happy CoC is dead), but I’m not surprised that it got too difficult to focus on. But as long they ensure TiTs gets updated to be just as good and diverse as CoC was and then some, then I’m happy.
TiTs question: Is the editor going to be worked on/updated anytime soon?
Will the TiTs editor be made public?
I did figure out how minerva works, thank you whoever works on the smutsaurus site, but still, some people might want an easier time.
Pretty sure the TiTS Editor was and still is an exclusive for backers handing out some coin, so not likely. A public release would just be asking for trouble, whether people feel more entitled than they ought to be or not. Fen and Savin are smarter than that.
Sooner or later, maybe someone can get a 3rd party editor going, but until then Minerva is what will have to suffice for now. CoC was never funded like TiTS, so I would count on it though.
i use a mix of both actually. minerva allows you to add/change flags, and the save editor (in its current form) is a tad wonkey at doing so. ofc, the flag system just got an overhaul, so i’d expect a newer version of the save editor at some point.
I just can’t see the justification in not properly finishing the project. I get that TITS is your baby now and it’s easier to program, but man, you are getting over 20,000 dollars a month from patreon. Just what do you need to stop cutting corners and to update on a more regular basis? I’ve kept up with you for ages man and for the cashflow, there are others out there who would be doing ten times the work for a fraction of the cash.
Good luck on D3 anyways.
It’s almost like that Patreon is exclusively for TiTS, and CoC has no revenue whatsoever. Weird~
If you ever find that person doing 10x as much for a fraction of the cash, point them out to me so I can hire them.
Maybe you should actually look at patreon before you speak, especially since they updated it to more accurately reflect the amount being donated. Not to mention the amount displayed is probably slightly higher than what they’re currently bringing in because of dodgers and declined pledges. So as far as work that either requires specific skill sets and/or education, they aren’t making as much as a lot of jobs that require either a master’s or bachelor’s. This isn’t some minimum wage job that any monkey can do. Aside from that, you can’t pretend to know the cost of living for everybody on Fen’s payroll. Especially when the rent for a studio apartment in one city is the same as a mortgage on a four bedroom home in another. And those people who do more work for less tend to do shit work. Just ask any contractor about that.
Fen and Savin, I know it goes without saying that I’ve been a fan of your work for years.
At first I didn’t really like TiT’s but the more work it’s done the more I wish I could’ve become a backer for it way back when that was happening (was jobless during that time frame), but alas I can only look forward to the future of TiT’s
I enjoyed CoC and the work that was done on it, and though many other quests and weird… stuff, got included into the game throughout the years I didn’t care for, I must say I am glad that the ending is being written at least for that was all I wanted to see. So I look forward to the update, and I understand that you are all doing this as a charity more then actual pay for work. So I want to thank you two and the entire team since I feel I am forgetting a few.
And I can’t help but look forward to future announcements and many more to come.
Great name, the only one I’ve seen on here that I like more was Dicksmash McPunchgroin
Clearly, after the final release of CoC comes out, it’s time for modders to bring all the incomplete stuff some closure.
Good thing there are others who can pick up the slack Fen didn’t want to so we can get all the projects that were just plain forgotten
Shame, I really tried to get into TiTs but I was expecting aliens and robots. On the two planets I visited there was just about nothing but furries. Nothing wrong with furries, I like them in a fantasy setting. But I really expecting a higher ratio of little green women. Seems like it is 90% furries and 10% actual sci-fi creatures.
my big question to this is simple to both savin and fen since i know CoC is like the child that started it all: would this last expansion from you two mean that fans will be able to potentially pick up where you and the team left off and make something like the original dream? of course that would be woth proper credit to the mad geniuses who made it all possible in the first place
Tragic that so much unfinished content wont ever be finished 🙁 but i cant really complain much since the game has been so good and ive loved it so much over the years. I’ve played CoC since it began and ill play it till it ends and even after.
So what did you use to make CoC or is it built from the ground up. I sure many people would love to finish it and see it to the end. I’ve been a fan since finding Unnamed Text Game a long time ago.
So is there some sort of skeleton or source that the game uses?