Hey guys, Fenoxo here. I guess I ought to touch bases again. It’s been a while, and you guys are past due for an update!
So without further ado, let me prattle on about the relatively insubstantial things I’ve done, like writing another 1,500ish words of public usage stocks for New Texas, or Savin’s bubbly huskar scientists that are ready to be coded for Uveto. You know, the usual fare.
Or I could tell you guys that we’re gonna make a visual novel.
Whoah now! Cool those thrusters, rusher! Before anyone gets too excited and/or angry, lemme go ahead and clear a few things up about. Neither Savin or I are writing it – a friend of ours going by the handle “SomeKindOfWizard” is going to be tackling the writing. SKoW has written for a few VNs that are already on Steam, and she chipped a scene for our July 4th “Freedom Bison” event.
What else about it? It’ll be a side-story in the Tainted Space universe about a down on his luck rusher trying to put together a proper crew and scrape together a decent paycheck. The goal is to produce something that’s “safe” for work enough for steam, with the option of having an unofficial patch for anything too Steamy for Gaben to handle. Does it sound pretty rad? I think it sounds pretty rad.
Other notes:
- We don’t plan for involved transformation systems or combat to be a part of the visual novel. However, if it is successful, we may push for more features in the next.
- Presently it only exists in outline form. We’ll be reviewing it at a work meeting tonight.
- We haven’t lined an artist up for it yet. We’re not sure if we’ll pursue a traditional VN-type artist or try using one of our staff.
- Please don’t overhype yourselves (or get too mad over something that isn’t final yet).
- Okay I love you buh bye!
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Cool.
Sorry Fen but the hype train is already here. ^__^
Sounds like an interesting project.
I´d probably buy it 😀
So its begins…..
Could you link some of the works SKoW has done previously? Regardless, I’m interested to see where this will go.
I think the Art should be generally close to the Art in TiTS.
It was wonderful!
Until i got to the “Steam” part.
Ok, so, i have nothing against Steam (i have an account there full of games, so, it’s obvious v: )
But based on my experience, Steam is NOT the place you upload these kind of things unless you want a controversy on your hands. Hey, Major/Minor has it’s share of hate only for being furry game. A novel based on the Tainted Space verse even without the NSFW part gives a “not gonna end well” feeling.
To be fair, Major/Minor has also a lot of hate from furries because it got released on a hype train alone with someone being the PR person that absolutely doesn’t know how to handle anything PR related.
Also, TiTs already got quite a bit coverage outside of the furry fandom thanks to the fact that it raised a ridiculous amount of money during the offbeatr campaigns. It’s safe to say this could be utilized to get more support and coverage from non-porn followers.
My point was that Major/Minor got hate just from being a furry styled game, not because the game was poorly developed… though, that is also true.
Well.. why is the Furry Community hated so much? Because they’re seen by outsiders (and to be honest, they aren’t that wrong) as a group of sex obsessed weirdos with a lot of fetishes. What is the disclaimer of TiTs in the main menu?
“Do not play this game if you’re under the age of 18 and >certainly don’t play this if exotic and strange fetishes disgust you.<"
So, TiTs and Fenoxo are quite popular outside just the furry fandom… but getting "support and coverage" from non-porn followers sounds like quite a feat. (Even more when the "Tainted Space" is highly sexual, at least on the TiTs version) The Tainted Verse reputation will carry on, and in a world full of everyone trying to f*ck with other people, i can already see a post of PC Gamer about this game making a controversy, maybe it will even include some SJWs screaming "This novel available on Steam is related to this erotic text game! Under-aged kids could play this!!"
I do suppose that is a good point, You also have to look at what rating the game will get, not all games on steam are rated E. There are quite of few VN on steam that have +18 patches to them and I haven’t seen a big uproar about them (at least big enough to make new that would come my way).
I agree one hundred percent.
I am all for a TiTs visual novel, but it would be best not to release it on steam. It would cause too much controversy and backlash. The universe of TiTs is too weird, too sexual, and too furry to make it on steam. Patch out explicitly sexual stuff, random gamers on steam are still going to complain and hate of the VN.
There is no such thing as bad publicity. As long as the steam reviews can be ignored by the staff the boost in sales / income will likely be fully worth it.
It’s not the hate what worries me, the developers/players can just ignore the hate. What worries me, is that you can only get away with making so much noise until you have a delicate situation on your hands.
It’s not like this Visual Novel send a death thread to Gaben and had their game pulled off Steam. Only to came back and be received with a bias against their game and development studio. Which decreases the amount of sales… (So, yeah, there IS bad publicity)
If this novel decides to go on Steam, i hope it doesn’t make too much noise, because that usually ends bad, very bad.
As an administrator on a larger furry porn site, all “delicate situations” just bring more visitors and thus potential consumers/customers. Sure, it might be annoying for a bit but that stuff usually dies down within days and you’ll simply get more traffic.
And the people who would like to cause trouble are more than likely already aware of tits as a whole, as such this will very likely leave a much lower wake than you’re anticipating.
Though, you’re very right in the “more visitors and thus potential consumers/customers”. As a Game Developer and Programmer, i say that selling something is absolutely different to getting traffic through your website. 😛 Sure, Fenoxo should get an increase in visitors, but the Novel isn’t going to do that great just by getting looks at their Steam page, since you’re actually trying to sell a finished product and not get revenue through advertisement (Though FenCo gets money by Patreon). You have to convince your customers, not making them see your product and then have a bias against you/your product because they saw some site/someone say “bad things” and that it’s related to TiTs. Yes, that bias will die in the long term, but it’s a loss of sales for the Novel, even if your targeted audience doesn’t care about that bias, it’s still a loss of potential customers.
I might sound like i might be exaggerating all of this novel-steam-thing, but to clear things, i don’t think/anticipate this to leave a wake of high-profile controversies and someone being sued :v
I just think that it might not be such a good idea to be on Steam, and if they’re going to put it on Steam, they should be careful, because if it attracts too much (bad) attention, it might end up being bad. (still, not something THAT bad)
You, as an administrator on a large furry page, should know that the only people that are actually harmful to you/your website, the most they can usually do is DDoS you, and most problems are just minor nuisances and “stuff that usually dies down within days” or even hours.
However, I did saw someone get their data server hacked and lose months of progress on their game, heck Chucklefish got a minor hack last year (though, they didn’t lose more than community chats and posts), someone hacked the Starbound developers for no apparent reason…
Steam is in the radar of a LOT of people, raising attention there is good, usually… raising bad attention is not so great, obviously, and raising the attention of people that can actually be harmful doesn’t need to be explained, from SJWs ruining things, to actual Hackers… though, i HIGHLY doubt this Novel and Fenoxo will get to problems of such level. (I did say i don’t anticipate this to end THAT bad …um, right?) but nevertheless, is a possibility, some things might sound ridiculous, stuff that you don’t even consider/expect… and still end up happening. (That’s when you begin looking like a paranoid guy like me :P)
I just think they should approach things carefully (more than just “Remove the NSFW stuff” and throw it on Steam) as Steam can do more harm than good, i’ve seen it before and just want this Novel and FenCo continue going without problems.
Pardon the Poor English/Unnecessary-wall-of-text-when-i-could-have-summarized-that/You-seem-to-point-out-similar-things/Not-so-great-reasoning.
I haven’t been getting a lot of sleep in the last days xD
Huniepop was a arousing (puns~) success, and the Sakura “games” tend to sell decently enough so I don’t really see the problem.
Some people hate furries, some people hate weebs, others hate fans of MLP or bronie. It’s whatever really, the only reason something like HuniePop was even a controversy in the first place is because twitch stupidly banned it when they let far, FAR more graphic nsfw stuff be played on their platform.
I just don’t see how having this on steam would be a big issue, have you seen steam lately? It’s a mess where quality control has left in the middle of the night!
This appears to be a point that people come to a few times, and it’s gotten into a very large stream of replies that I can’t be bothered to look through.
The game’s being written so that it is interesting and fun even without all of the sexual content in. I’m literally writing it that way as I go, with placeholders where the NSFW variations/Uncensored patch content will be included.
There’s no good way to prove “Trust me, I know what the hell I’m doing” without first giving you the game’s plot. But also I don’t want to spoil the game’s plot. Neener-neener-nya-nya. x
It’s all very carefully considered -and- if worst comes to worse (which it absolutely shouldn’t) it will be available in all of its uncensored glory on Nutaku anyway, and they love dicks’n’butts’n’stuff.
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Hi.
Well I have played this game off and on to some degree.
Ofcause I can’t get enough time to really get into it as its a public house but I check your blog.
I assume you are doing it in the renpy engine.
That does have voice support for us blind folk.
However avoid sounds in menus, auto scroling text, custom images that interfier with access, alt text on all images is needed, etc.
Steam is not really like accessible for us blinks so if you are making this I’d like a standalone download.
You can include the adult patch I guess or have it as an option.
Over that no custom rpg maker engines either as it mangles accessibility a lot.
And what else, battles, there are card battles games I have played but a visual novel is fine, maybe with a few choices, you could have choice battles or something or more choices in the story.
To many games I get are just a straight story or have vary few paths to follow several ends are good to.
I like the renpy novels which act like a choose your own adventure.
I have sadly brought straight story novels one costing 15 dollars us.
That novel is no longer on my hard drive it was good but once played, well.
I have a few others which are good.
I’d like it once the tits game is finnished and co c to have it in a visual novel or a more accessible format, some buttons on the shockwave flash files are not labeled and flash is a bit of a bastard lately it crashes things on my end.
So I h avn’t touched it as much as I would usually do so.
Considering the lack of replayability in $60 AAA titles these days, $15 for a novel doesn’t sound bad.
I do like the TiTS universe completely unrelated to any smut it may or may not contain, so this is relevant to my interests.
I’m pretty certain that people will want to have that patch in a fast and furious fashion. The “Hot Coffee” Mod/Patch of 2016. What a delight.
Can’t you finish at least one of your current projects before starting another one?
For fucks sake you still haven’t even finished CoC yet.
Nevermind, I’m a dumbass who apparently missed the 1.0 release of CoC.
Sorry, carry on.
The VN is also being developed by someone completely outside of FenCo, so it’s not like it’s taking resources away from TiTS development.
Eh, not completely “outisde” per say, but it is contract work.
Ha ha! This isn’t taking anything away from TiTS development, so it shouldn’t affect it in the slightest.
Hell yeah. I’ve always thought the TiTS-verse could stand on its own as legit sci-fi without the porn aspects, good to see that’s going to happen.
How much time would this take away from tits? Because while I’d be interested I wouldn’t enjoy it slowing down the progress of tits…
None at all. It’s being developed outside of FenCo.
Eh, not completely “outisde” per say, but it is contract work.
SMUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY! [-$-]
Fenfen is going places
Sorry to be a bit random, but was a bit curious of something I asked a bit back and I dunno if you answered it somewhere else, but is there a way to increase our backer money if we wanna use the save editor?
Not at the moment. The current plan is to make the save editor a patreon reward once the year of free builds starts.
Year of free builds?
Basically when TiTS content has reached a certain point all builds will be public builds for a year. After that backers will get access to new builds first followed by public access to the exact same build 2 weeks later (subject to change).
Well hopefully! It’ll give Amorous by JasonAfex a run for his Money.
I’m not hugely into the VN market, but I’m guessing ours is going to be relatively small and light compared to a lot that’s out there (but I intend to price it appropriately).
Eh, whatever floats your boat Cap’tin. Personally, I’m just looking forward to Kyonyuu Fantasy’s English Patch work by MangaGamer. To sate my Furry needs though, probably still Amorous and TiTS.
Though, truth be told? If it’s Art/Animation(Any of the Future Installments) Are as good, or slightly less so compared to Amorous. It’ll definitely be on my Top 2 Furry Visual Novels. If you’ve seen all the Crappy Furry VNs out there. You’ll know what I mean.
how about you finish TiTs instead of having like 6 projects going at once?
How about you learn to read. It’s pretty clear that the TiTS staff is spending 0 time on this. It won’t affect TiTS development in the slightest.
Can you believe that guy? Talk about stepping on your dick… I swear, nobody can be bothered to fucking READ anymore. Which is kinda ironic, since he’s talking about a text-based game.
How about skimming through the comments real quick? I mean fuck, there aren’t that many and this topic has already been covered twice well before you posted yours. Alternatively, you could work on your wording so you don’t sound like an asshole. Don’t even get me started on the fact that they have one side project that doesn’t take away from production either.
Fen will be like a executive producer, do nothing but have his name attached on this.
if you’re going outside of the usual people may I suggest http://vanillycheesecake.tumblr.com/tagged/Art since he/she recently quit her job alternatively http://mylittledoxy.tumblr.com/ or http://incaseart.tumblr.com/ . Obviously it’s up to you but I do quite enjoy their work
if I could have any say at all, I’d say the protagonist should probably have a reassured attitude almost like the mischevious type, but suaver rather than dirty, know what I’m sayin? im kinda tired of all these self-cautious heroes, we need a person with game!
A VN protagonist with a backbone and that doesnt spend half the game questioning themselves? THAT IS HERESY
Fruits of Grisaia and Critical Point.
Just saying.
You mean kinda like Indy, right?
Nice to see some more background info being explored in the setting. Can’t wait to see further updates.
Have I missed things, or whatever happened with The Silence?
Still being chipped at, but that is Gedan’s pet project, if I recall correctly. This project will be “outsourced” for the most part.
Last I saw of the Silence, Geddy had found a way to include a button on TiTS that loaded in the Silence.
No idea if anything else has been done. To my knowledge, Savin never wrote the sex scenes for it.
There’s a pile of edits to make to it to clean it up. I’ll get around to it. Eventually. ;_;
You need to find a way to clone yourself. Think of how much of yer backlog you could clear out.
“It was a good plan, on the face of it. Unfortunately it only brought new meaning to the phrase ‘Go fuck yourself’. Vigorously. And repeatedly.”
NURSURY!!!!!!!! Vote Deez Nutz 2016…
Also, Doing this Visual Novel will really boost your exposure to a broader audience! Good luck! I will surely be looking forward to this!
A visual novel sounds great! I hope that I enjoy it as much as I do Trials.
FenCo, unofficially officially soon to be a brand name to be feared on the market.
May your enemies bleed gold mines for you to harvest!
Considering I absolutely adore visual novels, I’m all for this. Its my favorite genre.
I am really sorry but I am already hit by the hype train
CHOO CHOO
Off topic, but are Korgonne encounterable? I’ve been running around Uveto for a while and I haven’t been able to find one.
They are out on the ice. You most certainly can encounter them so long as you updated to the current version.
They should be out there for backers, definitely.
Is it bad that I misread “public usage stocks” as “public stock market” and got excited for monte carlo machine virtual investment subgame with related events?
Actually come to think of it, that’d just be a distraction from the PLOT. Reminds me of when I wanted to make a sengoku-esque game based on the various factions of Mareth, but dropped it due to work and RL, and next to no programming experience.
I’ll never understand where you guys find the long-term motivation. From someone who’s never completed a personal project, keep up the good work.
Fenoxo, been a long time fan. Made an account just to say this…Take my money now….oh wait…take more of it because i already give you money xD
Woo! Well thank you kindly!
Good luck with all your stuff.
Any interest in another AMA? I suspect you’re too swamped these days, but one never knows.
He’s already done an AMA?????
He did one in the lead-up to the release of TiTS.
No plans at the moment, but we could try to score one when the VN releases to get hype/advertisement built up.
I’m sometimes accidentally good at marketing.
a mainstream way of introducing new normal people to our perverted lifestyle??!
begins to laugh maniacally
*adds evil cackle to maniacal laughter*
I do not know why but its good smells .
So shut up and take my money
A little skeptical of this. No t/f’s at first. Meh. Still futa on male content in it right? Depending on further details, I would pledge and stop being a skimper (sorry if that comes off dickishly. Hehe.)
Yeah, can’t help but look forward too it. I like the plugin idea for adding in any overly “Steamy” content.
Suddenly I imagine this with ship fights and encounters like FTL and I am so… wet.